Curse

Navaros · Apr 25, 2008, 07:09 PM // 19:09

Not-signed. Ursan already got nerfed unnecessarily, and doesn't need any more nerfings.

GW is an extremely easy game even without Ursan, so nerfing it accomplishes nothing other than to reduce player options and fun choices to play the game with.

Don't like Ursan, then don't use it. End of story.

milan · Apr 25, 2008, 07:10 PM // 19:10

/signed on the following conditions.

You are only able to use the following in the noted areas.

Vanguard = Vanguard areas.
Asuran = Asuran areas.
Dwarven = Dwarven areas
Non core Tyrian skills = Tyria
Non core Canthan skills = Cantha
Non core Elona skills = Elona

This should even things out nicely.

Tyla · Apr 25, 2008, 07:25 PM // 19:25

Because the Tyrian, Canthan and Elonian skills are overpowered PvE-only skills?

*

Steboy93 · Apr 25, 2008, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

/signed on the following conditions.

You are only able to use the following in the noted areas.

Vanguard = Vanguard areas.
Asuran = Asuran areas.
Dwarven = Dwarven areas
Non core Tyrian skills = Tyria
Non core Canthan skills = Cantha
Non core Elona skills = Elona

This should even things out nicely.

So paragons, rits, dervs and assas an only stay in cantha/elona.

Great thinking genius.

Graphik Desine · Apr 25, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

omg omg why can't i use ursan blessing when i go to heroes ascent or random arenas??? i have it in my bar but when i go to click it in the match it won't let me!!! it becomes invisible!!! does my keyboard not work? (lol)

/not signed. it is already not allowed in some areas.

i agree, and i like your post phoenix tears...exactly what i was thinking.

it is a skill [we as the players] don't need to play all day long. there are so many other things to do in the game to either make money or play for fun or competitively---not sit around and form a boring pug and press 123 (and sometimes 4) for a living. if we feel like it, we go back and do it till it gets boring fast again....

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

/signed on the following conditions.

You are only able to use the following in the noted areas.

Vanguard = Vanguard areas.
Asuran = Asuran areas.
Dwarven = Dwarven areas
Non core Tyrian skills = Tyria
Non core Canthan skills = Cantha
Non core Elona skills = Elona

This should even things out nicely.

laaaaaaaaaaaaawl really. so we monks can't use seed of life in the elite dungeon? and sunspear rebirth sig in cantha and tyria for vanquishing? and to think all along i have been using both of these skills outside "in the following noted areas"......is that considered hax? :x lol

these skills become part of our skill listing, equippable but maybe not as effective (such as using lightbringer's gaze on some insects or humans--won't hit off) in some areas is what you mean, so it would be recommended to edit your post milan...it just isn't true ._.' but if you are trying to sign for the game to function that way in every way, shape, and form, then we can just throw all our "pve only" skills away and never use any of them again.

OH...and guys...if you don't like ursan so much, form your own non-ursan teams and go do DoA, UW, FoW HM without it. then there wouldn't always be an argument thread [AND argument in kamadan or lions arch at 2 am] about petitioning to get UB nerfed or rid of it. easy as that, right? less complaining, more taking charge?

edit [added that one last part. results, no excuses.]

Ctb · Apr 25, 2008, 07:59 PM // 19:59

Quote:

So paragons, rits, dervs and assas an only stay in cantha/elona.

Great thinking genius.

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic....

BUFF URSAN

It needs a hex/condition remover and a non-removable HoT. Just because I think it would be more entertaining to irritate the crybabies...

Sir Pandra Pierva · Apr 25, 2008, 08:05 PM // 20:05

/singed for a filter in Sardelic changing all URsan buff or nerf threads tiles
to the quote
I LOST THE POSTING GAME.

/+1 close

DarkGanni · Apr 25, 2008, 08:09 PM // 20:09

All I have to say is, with a nerf to ursan it will bring back creativity in PvE. Sad to see 80% of the GW population running one skill when there's hundreds of skills out there, GW never needed PvE only skills.

Also we can end this LF ursans R10+ crap in PvE.

/signed for the destruction of Ursan Blessing (errr Ursan Curse)

[email protected] · Apr 25, 2008, 08:20 PM // 20:20

the only good ursan is a dead one... but as they are so imbalanced, they never do...

/signed

yum · Apr 25, 2008, 08:27 PM // 20:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkGanni

All I have to say is, with a nerf to ursan it will bring back creativity in PvE. Sad to see 80% of the GW population running one skill when there's hundreds of skills out there, GW never needed PvE only skills.

Noesss, there are threads like "Why is NM hard?" outthere. For the sake of the idiocy of the mass, pve skills are a must

MithranArkanere · Apr 25, 2008, 09:07 PM // 21:07

As always, since it's a "Replace all skills" effect, the only change I see fit for it is to ignore armor inherent and upgrade properties and primary attribute of the character.

Nothing else. Not just nerfing, keeping the differences bwetween professions, not limiting it ot 20 areas in a game that has more than 1000 as if it where a Mission-specific Skill, nothing else.

Shion Nightbane · Apr 25, 2008, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Ursan should be nerfed, cause it ruins the rarity of certain items in game....now all dreadnoobs are able to farm rare drops by simply button bashing the ursanway...so yes pls nerf or make it area restricted

milan · Apr 25, 2008, 10:14 PM // 22:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ctb

I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic....

Thanks Ctb

I didn't think I'd needed to put a sarcasm tag on it for the masses, seems I grossly overestimate people.

Darkobra · Apr 26, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by milan

Thanks Ctb

I didn't think I'd needed to put a sarcasm tag on it for the masses, seems I grossly overestimate people.

It's another Ursan thread. Of course you do.

Aba · Apr 26, 2008, 12:20 AM // 00:20

/signed

no more care bears in doa

zany · Apr 26, 2008, 12:21 AM // 00:21

ursan= Light Yagami
imo.

snaek · Apr 26, 2008, 12:38 AM // 00:38

wut if we nerf ursan so that its still jus as easy, but it takes longer?

i.e. so that u cant upkeep it 24/7

downtime = slower runs = pointless to farm wit

so that u can run ursan in uw/fow/doa and have jus as an easy time...
except that ur runs will take 1/2hr-1hr longer than it does now cuz of downtime

im not sayin it'll take forever to finish fow...
im jus sayin roughly teh same amount of time as ur average balanced fow group

Maria The Princess · Apr 26, 2008, 12:44 AM // 00:44

while i agree with most of you that running uB in 100% of areas is boring and challenge in PVE would be nice to have again, imo the reason that UB is there is to give the unwanted in PUGS classes the ablility to do elite areas that were not accesible to them at 1st. with the whole HOM statue deal, if my main would be an assasin, that character would never be able to have any ofteh following states:

FOW
UW
DOA
Deep
Urgoz

and while most dungeons can be beat with heros+henchies or 2 people with heros, some dungeons such as Dunkan, Frostmaw on HM etc need actual people to be there. Sure now everyone will say "you n00b i beat dunkan HM and UW clear HM with henchies" but dont forget not everyone who plays this game is an impeccable pro at it.

since you cannot hench/hero those, and not everyone is lucky enouth to have a guild group that is into all those things, some people have been in their guilds since day 1, made good friends, enjoy GC etc, and it is not HOM that will make them quit it and join strangers that might not even be willing to take an assasin in the DOA.

UB lets people who like their main characters have access to places where previously only the "holy trinity" were accepted. If Anet really intends to give a bonus to people with a complete HOM in GW2, the UB is the only way how classes such as Assasins, Dervishes, Mesmers and even Ritualists would be able to have those monuments in their HOM and really, just do Elite areas.

As example, my friend's main character is a masmer, he would not want to play his Monk or Necro in a place where his mesmer needs his monument from because he only enjoys playing mesmer, and wants to have access to those areas on his favorite character. Most of those areas are not PUGable since the henchies cannot have the correct builds, are too low level or are not even present in outpust. and after all he would probably get really bored of the game if he had to play all alone all the time and would end up quitting. He wants his mesmer to have all those areas finished, Why not?

RavagerOfDreams · Apr 26, 2008, 01:31 AM // 01:31

no moar ursan QQ threads plskthxbai

+1

Lishy · Apr 26, 2008, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Nerf ursan so you can do what?Team up with n00bs in a pug?
Your problem.Not Anet's.

STOP THE QQING X_X